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    Red face Hello! New here, have a 2019 Forester Sport with xmode and want to test it some :)

    Hi all

    I have done some light offroading in the past with a 2010 Nissan Frontier, and with another Forester that I had. I currently have a 2019 Forester with dual X-Mode. I want to test it a bit, and have very little knowledge of good trails. I have done one up in Warren, NH, and that was fun. So, looking for suggestions :) Thanks in advance!

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    Hello and welcome!
    Not familiar with the dual x-mode.
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    Welcome to ENH!

    We bought my wife a 2015 Forester XT recently with the X-Mode. It is no replacement for a true 4wd system with low range, so it would not pass our standards for even a stock level Class 6 run. Without sufficient ground clearance, rock protection, and 4wd, it would not make it through most of the Class 6 roads (aka trails) that we traverse in our stock groups, at least without some potential damage. Plenty of times even a stock Jeep Wrangler will need a tug from a tow strap if the vehicle gets hung up on a rock.

    We do however have others such as yourself interested in creating a new style of off-pavement event for subys and similar non-4wd vehicles, we just need to carefully select which roads we use that this style of vehicle can handle. See this thread here from end of last year: https://forums.exploringnh.com/showt...cle-offroaders . However I would not compare a stock Cherokee or Ford Ranger with true 4WD to an AWD Subaru. Speaking from experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepin View Post
    Welcome to ENH!

    We bought my wife a 2015 Forester XT recently with the X-Mode. It is no replacement for a true 4wd system with low range, so it would not pass our standards for even a stock level Class 6 run. Without sufficient ground clearance, rock protection, and 4wd, it would not make it through most of the Class 6 roads (aka trails) that we traverse in our stock groups, at least without some potential damage. Plenty of times even a stock Jeep Wrangler will need a tug from a tow strap if the vehicle gets hung up on a rock.

    We do however have others such as yourself interested in creating a new style of off-pavement event for subys and similar non-4wd vehicles, we just need to carefully select which roads we use that this style of vehicle can handle. See this thread here from end of last year: https://forums.exploringnh.com/showt...cle-offroaders . However I would not compare a stock Cherokee or Ford Ranger with true 4WD to an AWD Subaru. Speaking from experience.

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    While I agree with it not helping in the low range and undercarriage protection, the dual function x mode is a step up from the basic x mode, and seems to be only available on the Forester as of 2019. It sounds pretty cool, sort of offering BLD type traction control and also hill descent. They have to be getting closer to finally adding a low range, and likely the Forester will be the first to get that too
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    While I agree with it not helping in the low range and undercarriage protection, the dual function x mode is a step up from the basic x mode, and seems to be only available on the Forester as of 2019. It sounds pretty cool, sort of offering BLD type traction control and also hill descent. They have to be getting closer to finally adding a low range, and likely the Forester will be the first to get that too
    Interesting Bob, definitely sounds like a cool upgrade, I agree the Dual design sounds more like a Jeep BLD type system in the way it gains traction. The other part I forgot to mention would be lack of articulation for off-camber situations, most of these intelligent systems require more throttle to engage properly, which increases the possibility of damage, but I would be curious to see what type of terrain a Subaru with X-Mode or the new Dual X-Mode could make it through. I know my wife won't be offering hers as the guinea pig, so I will have to sit back and watch others ;)
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    The Dual X-Mode will be available on the 2020 Outback, but only if you get the Onyx edition.

    It is a real upgrade, yeah.

    And no worries about the throttle, your foot pretty much don't control it, the computers do. Mash it to the floor if you want, it won't change anything.

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