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Thread: The (re)building of the Team Overbuilt fab shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat View Post
    For those of us not in the know what is a budgetary cost per sq ft. of Warmboard?
    Mine came out to be $7.99 per sq. ft. + freight shipping for Warmboard S. The retrofit panels are less expensive, however, I don't have any quotes or numbers on them.

    This isn't the cheapest method by any means but it will be the best performing solution. Our living room floor (100+ year old wide pine board) has a staple-up system installed years ago by the previous owners. Two runs per bay, no heat spreader plates, some foil faced fiberglass under. It takes well over an hour for that floor to even start thinking about heating the room once the zone starts calling. We also experience hot spots and cold spots. Part of the issue is the need to warm up two layers of old-growth lumber (subfloor + floorboard planks) but the other is the lack of conductive heat spreading across the floor. None of these issues are (ideally) experienced with Warmboard due to tubing placement above the subfloor and the continuous aluminum sheet spreading the heat across the floor evenly.

    Due to the interest in the product, here are the plans that came with my panels. The left side outlines the panel layout and the right outlines the tubing layout in the panels.

    image-20181015_192437 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr
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    Finally, more progress to report! Both in the shop and the master project which heavily delayed the shop build.

    For those interested in the Warmboard radiant floor install, here is a small album containing the installed panels with tubing, manifold, and stages of the floating floor install: https://www.flickr.com/photos/991112...57704518306775

    Not back to the good part!

    The goal this past weekend was simple: Install the interior wall sheathing. It seems simple, but almost every panel needed to include one or more outlet cutout. The walls are a little over 9' tall so a single 4x8 on end got us most of the way up. We were mostly lucky that studs were located every 4', for the most part. The install went pretty smoothly, mainly due to installing with a framing nailer and 2" ring shank nails.

    The first panel up!

    image-20181208_120725 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    A bit of a boring process overall. Jumping ahead, you can see the gap at the top that was easily filled in using 8' strips of sheathing:

    IMG_20181209_115700 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    IMG_20181209_120225 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The windows above each door are single pane glass. They got wrapped with house wrap and insulated, then sheathed.

    image-20181209_151318 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Panels around the breaker box are removable for easy access to basement penetrations as well as wiring around the panel. This will be where wiring, air, and data pass into the shop from the basement.

    image-20181209_151311 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Gotta have a pano:

    download_20181209_184542 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    So what's left? Glad you asked.

    - Prime / paint the sheathing
    - re-install 2nd floor stair treads
    - build insulated trap door cover for 2nd floor
    - install pellet stove
    - install foam sheets on ceiling
    - install lighting
    - cut / install bench
    - Push a very sad waggles into bay, remove axles
    - financially recover while putting finishing touches on shop (toolbox placement, stereo wiring, shop computer etc.)
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    Default Paint!

    Since my wife worked throughout the holidays (with the exception of xmas day itself), I had plenty of time to work on the shop. I heated the shop up with a catalyst propane heater and got to shaking up paint. The plan was to roll 2 coats of primer, 2 coats of exterior white on the upper 2/3rds, 2 coats of exterior grey on the bottom 1/3, and leave an 8" strip between the colors for a yellow stripe (2 coats) at the end.

    I got after the primer, cutting with a brush and 4" roller. The plywood was very thirsty and the first coat used a lot of paint and covered horribly. I rolled the rest with the 18" roller on an extension pole.

    image-20181230_133818 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20181230_180231 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20181230_182810 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The second coat of primer started to look better:

    PANO_20181231_132018.vr by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    I had a fluffy helper ready and willing to roll the first coat of the final layers:

    IMG_20181231_142145 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    In order to get the stripe correct, I used a 360* laser level to send a line against all the walls. I set the strip centered on the receptacles (outlets and switches all at mostly the same height), 8" tall.

    image-20181231_144153 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Laser line guided the tape placement, both top and bottom:

    image-20181231_152317 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The top coat of white went much quicker than the primer:

    image-20181231_160908 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Then the lower grey:

    image-20181231_182756 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    A New Years Day toast to the shop, a year (and many more) ahead of cool projects to build!

    image-20190101_122216 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The final coats of white and grey:

    image-20190101_143403 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Taped out the stripe and got a coat of yellow down:

    image-20190102_185929 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Final dry coat of yellow, sans tape:

    image-20190103_182855 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190103_183131 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190103_183912 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr
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    Looks awesome Mitch. Can't wait to check it out. Kinda makes me want to paint my own shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakinJeep View Post
    Looks awesome Mitch. Can't wait to check it out. Kinda makes me want to paint my own shop.

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    Thanks! It for sure makes it feel more complete. Added benefit is reflected light off the walls and easier cleaning of the walls if necessary.

    This past weekend Chris and I converged on the shop and made the final push required to get my Jeep into it and drop the axles in prep for them to head to a new home!

    I started by installing outlets and pulling the 3 circuits into the panel. They are separated by wall (toolbox wall, back wall, far wall + between doors). Each circuit also feeds outdoor outlets on each exterior wall of the shop, useful for shop vacs, battery chargers / tenders, and corded tools. Everything is 20a GFCI protected.

    image-20190104_191726 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190104_221819 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    I picked up a 12 pack of cheap Sunco brand LED shop lights on Amazon:

    IMG_20190103_145850 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    IMG_20190103_145900 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    They hang from chains and and connect to power via a standard grounded plug. They can also be chained together up to 5 fixtures in a chain. Unlike fluorescent lights, which throw light 360* from the tube, these fixtures throw light down in a somewhat cone shape. This means the ceiling is dark, along with most of the wall next to the fixture. We need to use more fixtures to get the same light we would expect from similar fluorescent fixtures but the trade-off is higher light density which = fewer shadows.

    Here, we have about half the shop lit before we ran out of fixtures. I've got more on order:

    image-20190104_221627 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Once we got light placement down, we installed 1" thick foil-faced foam sheets on the ceiling. This will help reflect light and heat back down as well as add additional R value to the ceiling:

    image-20190105_175554 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The bench legs got cut down 4.5" to a more comfortable height. It was then lagged into two studs and the base of the stairs. It is now part of the shop structure:

    IMG_20190105_174353 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Toolboxes had to be moved back in from the breezeway connecting the shop to my house. The boxes have been living in there since we ground the floor in prep for epoxy, so it's been a while. We fabbed a quick and dirty ramp to roll the boxes down into the shop:

    IMG_20190105_201612 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Success:

    image-20190105_203311 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Decoration and a more permanent lighting power solution was next. I am installing a 3/4" conduit and boxes along this wall to plug the first light in each chain into. These are powered from a switch just inside the door.

    image-20190105_221322 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Since we're trying to make things look nice (at least to start with) I used the laser level to get the conduit and boxes level:

    image-20190105_212438 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The final result as of this past Sunday morning, half lit, populated with welder, some tools, bench, boxes, and a lot of ambition:

    PANO_20190106_105834.vr by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    From the driveway:
    MVIMG_20190106_110557 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr
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    I'm jealous of the sign. I have a stop sign in my shop that I've had since I was a teenager, but that one is perfect.

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    All that was left for the weekend was get my Jeep into the far bay, up on jack stands, and drop the axles in preparation for transport to a new home (under the FreakinJeep TJ!).

    My Jeep has spent the past couple of months outside on the far side of my house, in the second driveway. The shop is on the other side of the house, separated by yard and road. We figured we should work smarter and try to use Lindy, Chris's 2500 tow pig, to move it. Seems easy, lift the back, chain it to the bumper, drive it over.

    IMG_20190106_114330 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    IMG_20190106_115635 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Something isn't right. Nope, not going to work. We got this far and decided to do it by hand:

    studio_driveway 2019-1-6 11.57.42.104 AM by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Across the front yard:

    studio_driveway 2019-1-6 12.09.37.838 PM by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    studio_driveway 2019-1-6 12.09.43.528 PM by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    And into the primary driveway:

    main_driveway 2019-1-6 12.10.37.610 PM by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    main_driveway 2019-1-6 12.12.06.258 PM by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Inside at last:

    IMG_20190106_121457 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The axles came out easily since the drivetrain was already removed:

    image-20190106_134356 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Final resting place for my Jeep for a while, and positioning in the shop:

    PANO_20190106_172441.vr by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Since the shop was warm and I now have an open bay, time to give love to the neglected fleet. The truck was first, for an oil change. It was also a great opportunity to see the workable space when a full size truck is taking up the bay.

    image-20190106_173831 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190106_173839 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190106_173849 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190106_173903 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190106_174555 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr


    And just because I can, the summer whip gets some inside storage and cleaning, at least until the bay is needed again:

    image-20190106_202350 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr


    All in all, very pleased with the progress and the way the shop is coming out! What's left?

    - Light placement in front half
    - Hang ceiling foam panels, wire lights
    - Build insulated cover over 2nd floor access
    - Pellet stove install in corner next to toolboxes
    - Finish welder closet under stairs w/ power plug
    - Wire in compressor (in basement) and run air line
    - Outlet / switch covers
    - Better overhead door weather stripping
    - New far side entrance door
    - Door / window trim
    - Additional paint
    - Waggles thrashing!
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    Amazing stuff Mitch/Chris. Looks awesome.
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    Congratulations! It looks awesome you guys (off course ;)
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    That is an awesome shop!
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    Awesome looking shop!
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    Wow! Great to see the final work! Now just make sure you don't get any dirt on the floor...
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    Thank you all for the kind words. It's been a ton of work and a long time coming. We're very happy with the outcome so far!

    Don't worry, Anthony, we've already put the first of many scratches in the floor :) On the plus side, it cleans up like a dream.
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    Spent last weekend moving and installing a pellet stove that once heated Nicole's studio into the shop.

    The studio got a hanging hydronic unit. Odd shot of the plumbing but you get the idea:

    image-20190118_170722 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Chris moving the stove out of the studio. He is VERY excited for heat in the shop:

    IMG_20190119_194703 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Cutting the holes for the wall thimble:

    IMG_20190119_211629 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    MVIMG_20190119_213306 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    image-20190120_133810 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Spread of exhaust parts:

    image-20190120_133203 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    Installed and running:

    image-20190120_152257 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    The stove is on a thermostat and maintains the shop to 60* currently. It holds 80lbs of pellets and easily can make it a couple of days. The stove takes up less space then expected and produces plenty of heat throughout the whole shop.


    We then did some snow clearing:

    image-20190120_183428 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    No lights at night, and the E30 enjoying some warms:

    MVIMG_20190121_002223 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr

    IMG_20190121_002301 by Mitchell Beauchemin, on Flickr



    And now for the "what's left":
    - wire / plumb compressor(s)
    - welder outlet
    - 2nd floor insulation cover
    - front lighting
    - complete ceiling foam install
    - work in it!
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