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    Default Wacky Wednesday Chester, NH Scouting Run "Swamp from hell"

    Here's some photos and videos from our run. We were out from 1 till about 530 with an hour and a half struggling to pull Old Red from 32" of mud and muck after his clutch gave out from sitting stuck in the water for 30 minutes. Had his clutch not given out we probably could've gotten out of there sooner alas we GOT OUT and that's all that matters with HUGE THANKS to FSHJNKY'S skill, rig and winch!

    Depsite the setback it was a great adventure and managed some good seat time on the C6's in the area. Lots of pin striping and cleared one down tree to open up a blocked C6. Besides the clutch and having our undercarriages look like something from the set of Swamp Thing everyone made it out unscathed (that we know of).

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    Beginning the journey into the swamp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siv8ftFHO_I

    Continuing journey into the swamp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-z_FOWfp8

    Premature celebration before getting stuck in swamp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao1fHjIebeQ
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    Last edited by drinnt; 08-15-2013 at 07:19 AM.
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    Wow, that's some deep water. I was nervous for you just watching it. I'd be worried about hydrolocking. Did anyone walk it before you went through? Great Swamp Thing pics!


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    They walked it but as always it got worse and worse. We only had about another hundred yards to solid ground and 1 mile til the end of the trail but it just wasn't happening.
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    I did walk it, felt solid bottom and decided to go. I doubt I'm the best judge of a trail above water, below was a crap shoot and I had a bad throw. If I did that trail again I'd do it differently . . . I'd insist Steve go first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    I did walk it, felt solid bottom and decided to go. I doubt I'm the best judge of a trail above water, below was a crap shoot and I had a bad throw. If I did that trail again I'd do it differently . . . I'd insist Steve go first.
    Haha, glad it turned out well. Thanks for sharing the pictures.


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    Paul, were any of those ones we did on the Scouting Run back earlier this year with Matt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    I did walk it, felt solid bottom and decided to go. I doubt I'm the best judge of a trail above water, below was a crap shoot and I had a bad throw. If I did that trail again I'd do it differently . . . I'd insist Steve go first.
    LOL Red. If that were the case I'd have gotten to the point where your nose dropped off, turned around and kept going in another direction. You were very brave leading us through that swamp...you got big ones I'll give you that! Like you, I just don't have the complete knowledge of what my rig can handle yet well enough to make the call you did. It was a crap shoot and we definitely broke even just getting you out of there!

    I still can't wrap my brain around the capability of these Jeeps that Paul was able to TOW you back out through that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10JKUsah View Post
    Wow, that's some deep water. I was nervous for you just watching it. I'd be worried about hydrolocking. Did anyone walk it before you went through? Great Swamp Thing pics!


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    Yeah Red and I walked the second part during the crucial go forward or go back decision once he was stuck. Unfortunately his winch being underwater meant we had to go back. Either way the path ahead was fraught with at least three sections where there were deep (32") ruts straddling high middle ground of 15-20" - all underwater with about 8" of soft material on the bottom...so the diffs and cross members were hanging up pretty bad. Just to flesh it out for ya!
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    Were you using the clutch while submerged?

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    I've been to that road before and that crossing is like 1/2 mile long and impassible, if we are thinking about the same place.. My friend walked about 250ft of it in waders and we decided nobody was making it through.. Does this look familiar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwalk View Post
    I've been to that road before and that crossing is like 1/2 mile long and impassible, if we are thinking about the same place.. My friend walked about 250ft of it in waders and we decided nobody was making it through.. Does this look familiar?

    Why yes...yes it does look familiar! We made it over 1/2 way through and I'm only lifted 2.5" on 32's. IMHO someone up 4+" with 35's to 37's and lockers with a winch for backup and a buddy with a winch in a similar rig would have far less trouble than we did.

    Ahhhhhh scouting. Aint it grand!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinnt View Post
    Why yes...yes it does look familiar! We made it over 1/2 way through and I'm only lifted 2.5" on 32's. IMHO someone up 4+" with 35's to 37's and lockers with a winch for backup and a buddy with a winch in a similar rig would have far less trouble than we did.

    Ahhhhhh scouting. Aint it grand!
    I was alone so there was no way I was trying it.. But if it is passable I really want to make it through! It was soft and you can't see from one end to the other so those were the two main things stopping me
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicXCrider View Post
    Were you using the clutch while submerged?
    This topic is like religion. I've read some folks that wheeled in mud and water for 25+ years with no issues clutching in water. Another fella who likens the clutch to disc brakes. Another fella who says the centrifugal force of the spinning clutch will keep out debris...another who says water isn't likely to get up in the housing because it's like a submerged water glass upside down. Then you have guys who have lost clutches in the water. I'm very curious to see what happened to Red's rig. (sorry for your trouble again, Red) At the trail head the clutch was making lots of whiny noises when depressed and the rig barely moved while shifting...and after that did nothing when in gear.

    I guess the disc brake comparison is not a good one because the clutch opens up wider than a disc brake pad does off the rotor...so even a 1/32" of debris between the clutch and the plate will allow it to slip.

    I've also heard of folks depressing the clutch and spraying up in the hole to clean it out.

    At this point avoiding water I might have to stop or get stuck in going forward is the primary tactic. For now I'm educating myself on clutch mechanics to make my own choice about clutching under water.

    To answer your question. I did, yes...though only two or three times and I was not stuck at the time...so likely there was very little potential debris stirred up to infiltrate my clutch.
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    I still can't wrap my brain around the capability of these Jeeps that Paul was able to TOW you back out through that!.

    I completely agree! Back at the June All Wheels trip I towed xjdave out around 1.5 miles through several water crossings and was shocked how easily it went. I figured I'd only be able to get him as far through it as possible to get close to the exit.


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    (The first paragraph was supposed to be a quote)

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